[Charlieboy]

Originally Posted by hotncmom

So Oprah knows Tom is gay, and when he's jumping on her couch proclaiming his "love" for Katie, she's just laughing her ass off 'cause she knows it's complete bullshit?

Oprah doesn't seem the kind of person who would keep other people's secrets, particularly if they're assholes. She's got deep pockets too. Besides that, truth is the perfect defense.

The unfortunate truth is, when someone accuses a celebrity of something like being gay, the celebrity is the one that has the burden of proof to prove it's NOT true. People are always willing to believe the worst about someone. How does a male celebrity prove he's not gay? Denying it doesn't work. Having a girlfriend doesn't work (she's just a beard). Even having a wife and children doesn't work (professional beard, artificial insemination).

No defense of Tom or John Travolta or whoever, but doesn't it seem absolutely over the top to actually marry and impregnate a woman you don't love and stay married to her for years all for the sake of image? Why go to all that trouble? Why not just date around a lot and be a confirmed bachelor like Clooney (not saying he's gay)?

Why go to all the trouble. Because it's his career and he seems to have invested a number of years maintaining this false persona.

My guess is that George Clooney gets away with it because of his sense of humor and he appears to be well-liked. You just don't get the sense from his interviews that he is full of himself.

Tom Cruise on the other hand takes himself very seriously (I suspect he is another Narcissist. ) I have my doubts that he is well liked (by his peers) and definitely not by his "underlings" . He does not appear to have any sense of humor (although he tries). His career rose because of his leading-man(sex symbol) status. With all the humors and A. Morton's book, I think that's going down the tubes.

Originally Posted by pacific breeze

Part of the secret keeping in Hollywood is about access, but not all. Some of it is also the nature of the business. It is insular and elitist. Nobody wants to say a bad word about anybody else because they might not be a member of the club any more, and sadly, this includes journalists. It is a siege mentality, and there have been many, many examples of this. Scandals are routinely covered up with the knowledge of the press. Everybody knew Rock Hudson was gay, but it was never written about, nor was he confronted. I could go on, but I'd be better off writing a book about it, and that's been done, too.

Yes I believe this also. There are many famous celebrities who have been around for years, that you never read a peep of gossip about (it could really be that there is none) but this is my theory:

l. They are powerful in the industry and immensely charming. People are afraid to gossip about them or are well-paid not to talk. Girlfriends are made to sign confidentialty agreements. Call girls don't talk.

2. The people around them (groupies) and the media work to protect their public persona (until their stardom starts to decline or their false persona gets exposed in small increments, to the public).

Only when their career is in the dupster or they have passed on, do the gloves come off and all the dirt comes out.

Originally Posted by Chalet

I'm putting this blind item here because it's not published and was told to me face to face.

What singer/actress superstar who has recently gained weight, is in a multi-thousand dollar per month clinic in Europe having a procedure done?

(The actual procedure was not disclosed to me - only that she'll be fine.)

Barbara STreisand

Originally Posted by Raspberry gashes

Pfft leo isn't even that hot. He doesn't have a nice, deep, mans voice either. I'm not impressed by him at all.

Nor I - always suspected he was gay especially when he appeared at the oscars one time with his mom

Originally Posted by KristiB

Some insider gossip from a friend...

First, Katherine Heigl and Josh Kelly are getting married Dec 23rd in Park City...he's going to it. Don't tell anyone...lol

Second one... He knows a guy that had a relationship with Mathew McConaughey for two years. He saw pictures of the two of them on different vacations and things.

And finally... Faith Hill was really pissed that Carrie Underwood won last year and she said as long as she's there her and Tim won't be... we'll see.

MC with man, no surprise. I am suspicious of any actor who has a relationship with Penelope Cruz who I think is Hollywood's resident beard.

Originally Posted by nycgirly101

does anyone else think this thread should be moved to the random talk section? It would be so much better if only members could see it. I want to hear more of Cali's stories and it would just be easier if this thread wasn't open to guests.

Yes, I do as well.

Originally Posted by sparkly

I totally think she's his beard. I believe he's Toothy Tile. Anyone else?

Yes, why didn't he use Penelope Cruz unless this beard is becoming too obvious

Originally Posted by Raspberry gashes

She really shouldn't get too thin; makes her head even larger, and that's not a good look for her.

I dont't know if it's just me, but when I see pics in gossip mags they all look like their heads are too big for their bodies - very freakish

Originally Posted by Icepik

Simon Cowell - gay as the day is long, my uncle is a record producer for Sanctuary and it is common knowledge in the music industry.

Really? I never once got a gay vibe from him.

I did. No surprise to me.